| A. | 
            Frankly, I have not seen any yet.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            One of the boys told me about that trip you made to Iceland.  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            I did not participate on that trip.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            You did not?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            No, sir.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            How come?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            I have only made one trip on the U-Degen.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            Oh, that is right.  You were at La Rochelle as I remember it?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            Yes. | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            Did you get enough to eat there?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            Yes, sir, the navy has plenty to eat, yet.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            Is that so.  How about the French, do they have enough food?  I have seen pictures showing French children begging for food in the streets.  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            It is in France just as it is in Germany.  The Distribution of food is the same.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            I see.  Tell me, did you see any U-boat shelters in La Rochelle, like they have in St. Nazaire?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            No, they are in La Pallice | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            How big is La Pallice?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            I have only been there once.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            Didn't you go into the port of La Rochelle?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            No, the went to La Pallice.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            Is that the case you must have had some sort of shelter there for the boats?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            Yes, they  were just like those in St. Nazaire.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            How far is it from La Rochelle to La Pallice?  | 
          
          
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            | A. | 
            Not very far.  | 
          
          
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            | Q. | 
            How many U-boats did they keep there at the time you were there?  | 
          
          
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            I don't know.  |